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andygates ([personal profile] andygates) wrote2008-02-21 08:02 pm
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Sorry

It turns out that the UK did allow US 'rendition' flights to refuel after all.  Our wretched and gutless politicians have fessed up to playing ball with this vile criminal practice.  As a British voter, I'd just like to apologise for not getting these damned idiots out of power.  Their actions shame the nation, and shame me.  I'll try harder to get the rancid goat gobblers out next time.

[identity profile] andygates.livejournal.com 2008-02-22 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
There's oblivious and oblivious: asking the CIA, for example, instead of the USAF, would probably have found this stuff out sooner. But I can't say for sure whether that was complicit villainy, lazy villainy, or just being off the ball.

I don't pay for 'em to be any of the above, though.

And the sigh is all they're going to do.

So is that it? Are we just up the arse of a superpower and unable to set our own terms any more? That's pretty fucking feeble.

[identity profile] ravenbait.livejournal.com 2008-02-22 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
But would it have found it out in time to stop it happening? I doubt it.

That the sigh is all they're going to do is the really galling part for me. FFS, it's like being the weak kid next to the school bully. It's like we're so afraid of them taking against us that we can't even bring ourselves to take a stand when they're in the wrong. That's what infuriates me. It's like "Oh well, never mind, we're good friends so I'm sure it was just a misunderstanding."

I hate that international diplomacy will ride roughshod over the moral feelings of the populations involved, for reasons that aren't even made clear to those populations. What is it exactly that we're so afraid of losing by saying "Bad dog!"

And, you know, I strongly suspect that both populations here are disgusted. I no longer consider that politicians even in so-called democracies reflect the will of the people.