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http://www.co-operative.coop/ethicsinaction/takeaction/thewave/about-The-Wave/

The Wave, on Saturday 5 December, will be a carnival style procession through the streets of London to call for international action on climate change. It is being organised by the Stop Climate Chaos Coalition, which has been organising peaceful climate change marches since 2006 to keep the pressure on government for definite action on climate change.
details of the day

* Meeting from 12pm, Grovesner Square, central London
* Starts at approximately 1pm
* The route will flow from Grosvenor Square, via Piccadilly and Whitehall, to finally encircle the Houses of Parliament on both sides of the Thames.
* A stunning finale will take place at 3pm as The Wave encircles the Houses of Parliament
 
And there's a local coach going up! Grin

Greenies and activists, you have a few days to convince me that this will be more worthwhile and less soul-crushing than the Iraq protest.  I can't face that level of cynical ignoring again.  I'd rather just go do something direct.

Date: 2009-11-05 04:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sciolist.livejournal.com
You could get kettled and wee on a policeman's feet! That's worth doing.

Date: 2009-11-05 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simoneck.livejournal.com
Actually the possibility of being kettled rather puts me off. Which I suppose is the idea.
What thoughts do you have for direct action Andy?....actually silly question, not something to put down electronically.

Date: 2009-11-05 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andygates.livejournal.com
I have to report that to the beardies I know - they've been worried that the G20 kettling would have a chilling effect on general participation.

As for direct action, I dunno. Anything now would be both ill-advised and, frankly, armchair revolution. :) I guess I'll start with reading the action request spam I get!

Date: 2009-11-05 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simoneck.livejournal.com
They've been doing it for a while and I've never liked the idea.
Things are a balance I suppose and having people rioting across the city isn't great either. But arresting and prosecuting people who cause damage seems like what should be done, rather than having a method that basically arrests lots of people without due cause or redress.

The police always ask for lots of powers. Why wouldn't they. The problem is politicians who grant all their requests.

Date: 2009-11-06 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andygates.livejournal.com
Protection of property (or the presumption of damage to property, no less) is being weighted higher than the rights of the people. That doesn't make me happy.

Anyway this isn't impacting on my decision. I'd be happy to fight the good fight; what I can't take again is being utterly ignored and treated like yappy children.

Date: 2009-11-05 07:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sciolist.livejournal.com
Lera's planning to go with Henry, so if they get kettled, I shall write stiff letters of complaint

Date: 2009-11-06 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andygates.livejournal.com
Oh Christ, we're middle class.

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